Baba's Talk with Devotees

Baba's Talk with Devotees

In October 1917, Baba spoke to a Bombay lady.

Baba: Mother, what do you want? Ask for it.

Lady: Let me be free from the whirl of births and deaths.

Baba: (Laughing) Is this all you want? What! Have you come to die?

Lady (shocked) Baba, I do not at all understand you.

Baba: Think who you are

Lady: I do not understand.

Baba (pointing to her husband): He will tell you.
Then the lady went with her husband to her lodging and asked him what Baba meant.

Husband: Baba's words are mysterious. I cannot be sure I have made out his meaning. Probably he means something like this. the jiva goes on incarnating any number of times till it gets Sakshatkar i.e., sees or realises God. Baba is God. But people seeing him do not get full faith and do not see him i.e., feel him to be God; and hence they do not get Mukti.

One must learn from the sastras, that essentially Jiva and Siva are one. You think yourself to be a jiva is it not?

Lady: Yes.

Husband: Baba and Sastras want you to regard yourself as Siva or God.

Lady: No No. I am petty sinner-a Jiva and not the great God Siva.

Husband: No doubt that is your feeling. But Baba means that by constantly regarding yourself as God, your deeply ingrained belief that you are only a finite Jiva will be removed. This process continued, may be through numerous births and strengthened and helped by contact with saints will give you the firm belief that you are Brahman. That must be Baba's meaning.
(The pair again returned to Dwaraka Mai)

Baba: Mother, I have listened (from here) to all that your husband told you. Keep that in mind.